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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/224376297" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> CraftSpider <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#224376297">(Jan 28 2021 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Out of curiosity, is it known why the macos test runners are so much slower than the rest? ~1 hour vs up to 3 just seems so odd.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/224376545" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aaron Hill <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#224376545">(Jan 28 2021 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>There's an open issue: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/75335">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/75335</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/224376651" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aaron Hill <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#224376651">(Jan 28 2021 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I believe the primary causes are:</p>
<ul>
<li>The builders only have 2 cores</li>
<li>'Noisy neighbors' running tasks on the same physical hardware, leading to random spieks in build time</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/224377644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> CraftSpider <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#224377644">(Jan 28 2021 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Alright, thanks. So not much to be done, aside from "get better builders" or "speed up everything", unless something specific is found that can be fixed.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/224438819" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#224438819">(Jan 29 2021 at 07:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Getting MacStadium to donate some macpro builders would probably do the most good.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/228427804" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#228427804">(Mar 02 2021 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>AWS started offering Mac cloud machines in late 2020. I bet AWS can help here too.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/228427929" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#228427929">(Mar 02 2021 at 15:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>(though they are "only" Mac minis.  I guess I should find out if we're already using AWS as the host here.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/228444025" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#228444025">(Mar 02 2021 at 16:55)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> I'm eagerly awaiting AWS providing Mac Pro systems.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/228472270" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#228472270">(Mar 02 2021 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>There is a provider offering Mac Pro systems I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/228472284" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#228472284">(Mar 02 2021 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>MacStadium maybe</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/228472337" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#228472337">(Mar 02 2021 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe some official person/team could reach out to them ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/228472612" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#228472612">(Mar 02 2021 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yep <a href="https://www.macstadium.com/mac-pro">https://www.macstadium.com/mac-pro</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/228472630" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#228472630">(Mar 02 2021 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Though the photo is the 2013 ones</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/228472653" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#228472653">(Mar 02 2021 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Or 2015, I don’t remember</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/228473460" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#228473460">(Mar 02 2021 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
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<p>The MacStadium engineering team is still evaluating the new 2019 Mac Pro hardware and integration specifics for both the rack-mounted and stand-alone versions to determine the best configurations for our customers</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/228473558" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#228473558">(Mar 02 2021 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think they have the old one, but yeah the 2019 is not available anywhere from what Internet tells me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac%20Builders/near/228473710" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Mac.20Builders.html#228473710">(Mar 02 2021 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>For people who don’t follow Apple: macstadium seems to have the waste-bin but not the cheese grate</p>



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